Posts by No Apologies

fran shares some practical witnessing tips, discusses the watchtower mindset and reveals reasons why jehovah's witnesses are so difficult to penetrate with the gospel.

I agree with refiner and Donkey. Trying to show a JW how Witness doctrine is faulty is almost impossible. For every scripture you find, they will have a different one. There is a thread I just read that tries to explain or "prove" the Trinity. It is a complete waste of time. Speaking for myself, now that I have discovered that JW's are just another religion, and that the Bible is just an old book, why would I be interested in joining another group that teaches basically the same kind of doodle?

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Banned church member sues Jehovah's Witnesses

by izobcenec in

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a normandy resident who was disfellowshipped from jehovah's witnesses is suing the organization for $7 million on grounds the alleged action against her was wrong.

barbara joanna anderson filed the lawsuit thursday in coffee county circuit court.. she is seeking $2 million in compensatory damages, plus $5 million in punitive damages.. the defendants are listed as:.

* watchtower bible and tract society of new york inc.. * watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania inc.. * watchtower enterprises llc.. * watchtower foundation inc.. * watchtower associates ltd.. * kingdom support services inc.. * christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.. * religious order of jehovah's witnesses.. * the watchtower group inc.. * manchester congregation of jehovah's witnesses elders.. * lawrence a. seely, gary hobson, dale dormanen, robert e. matthews, david semonian, j.r. brown, and john does no.

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This is awesome news!!! Of course, I don't think anyone has ever successfully sued the WT over shunning, but there is always a first time. Plus Barb's circumstances are quite unique. Its obvious to anyone she was DF'd simply for daring to speak out against the Wt's refusal to address their pedophile problem.

Can't wait to see all the dirty laundry of the Watchtower get put on public display as the case goes to court.

ain't payback sweet!!! Go Barb go!!!

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1,000's are DF'd Each Year...

by Funchback in

thoughts and questions.

your viewpoints will be appreciated.

thanks.. using the 1999 wt cd-rom, i did a search of watchtower articles containing the jw catch-phrase, "thousands are disfellowshipped each year...".

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I have never thought about as a scare tactic, or to induce fear. To me it has always seemed like their way of showing what a wholesome, clean organization they have. Kind of like the politician who is "tough on crime." Most dubs are proud of the fact that their religion does not tolerate wrongdoing, unlike churches of Christendom, where anything goes and morals are not taught. God, now I sound like one of them.

Of course, I have to come to realize that the Org is not interested in cleanliness so much as the appearance of cleanliness. Its all about appearance.

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'Waiting on Jehovah'

by Dia in

isn't this just a pitiful way of saying, 'i can't deal with my anger'....'just be passive and be quiet and don't have any expectations'....'life is just too difficult; count me out'....'i can't have any impact anyway so why should i even try?

'....and of just sitting somewhere on the very outside and just daydreaming of how god, or maybe even spiderman, is just going to come along one day and then, then really, "i'll show you!

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The worst use of this phrase is when the Society uses it as an excuse for their failure to correct their mistakes.

Have a complaint about the way a matter is handled? Don't make an issue out of it. Wait on Jehovah.

aaarrrgggghhhhhh!!!!

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going to meetings

by hamptonite21 in

i was curious how many on the board still attend meetings?

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I still attend a meeting here and there. I may be all done though.

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UN Vote Unanimous for USA-UK

by Amazing in

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even syria voted against iraq by voting for the un resolution.

wow!

and china did not abstain as they have in the past ... the full 15 member sercurity council gave the usa/uk what they want ... while there are no automatic military triggers, the resolution does allow for unilateral action by member states if iraq continues "material breach" which is significant language in un speak.

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Amazing,

I don't buy into the conspiracy theories that Bush is hunting for somthing to do because Osama issue fizzled.

I don't know about any conspiracy theory. It's just my perception.

Iraq has been a serious concern for over 10 years

Exactly. So why is everyone wetting themselves now over him? What has changed? Nothing. Except Bush needed to keep the wheels rolling, IMHO.

p.s. Amazing, I can't believe I actually disagree with you on something. I think you are one of the most perceptive and reasonable people around these parts. I always enjoy your posts.

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UN Vote Unanimous for USA-UK

by Amazing in

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friends

even syria voted against iraq by voting for the un resolution.

wow!

and china did not abstain as they have in the past ... the full 15 member sercurity council gave the usa/uk what they want ... while there are no automatic military triggers, the resolution does allow for unilateral action by member states if iraq continues "material breach" which is significant language in un speak.

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Sorry, folks, I don't buy any of this. All this blather about evil Saddam started about the same time the search for Osama fizzled. Bush knows as long as he keeps people scared, they will rally around the flag. Saddam is just a much more convenient target than the Al-quaeda bunch.

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Leukemia & The Blood Issue

by Larry in

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i got this e-mail this morning.

could anyone help me with some words of encouragement for my friend?

or at least let me know the current standing with the borg re: leukemia.

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This is a tough one. Unfortunately many JWs will refuse treatments that the Society does permit, simply because they are so confused and misinformed. If you can get an elder they respect to tell them this, he may be able to sway them. My brother-in-law had an elder tell him, "If the Society says its a conscience matter, that means it must be ok" To me this sounds wishy-washy, but if it saves a life... Otherwise, if you have two adults who are totally committed to No Blood, there may not be much you can do.

Hope this helps. I know very little of practical value here.

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audio capture?

by No Apologies in

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can anyone give me some suggestions or advice on options for discreetly taping a discussion?

say if a person were having a conversation in their own home with some guests.

how might this best be done without causing undue alarm or needless questions requiring awkward explanations?

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Can anyone give me some suggestions or advice on options for discreetly taping a discussion? Say if a person were having a conversation in their own home with some guests. How might this best be done without causing undue alarm or needless questions requiring awkward explanations?

Or perhaps in a different setting, where no advance setup is possible. Would a small battery-operated device be the best option?

Would Radio Shack have the needed supplies, or are there better sources?

Keep in mind that this is purely a speculative question about a hypothetical situation.